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Syn Callibri
Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse
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Posted - 2010.09.23 14:16:00 -
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I believe the term for what the so many Minmatar want is...retribution* for 700 years of enslavment.
* Def : ret+ri+bu+tion/ˌretrəˈbyooSHən/ Noun: Punishment that is considered to be morally right and fully deserved.
...just sayin'.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse
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Posted - 2010.09.27 21:02:00 -
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Save your breath Andreus, it has been my experience that Amarrian hardliners have no interest in the truth...unless its one they have spun themselves.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse
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Posted - 2010.09.28 16:37:00 -
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Edited by: Syn Callibri on 28/09/2010 16:38:38
...thats why they are called heretics and not faithful. I am in agreement with you...it is quite an amusing show as they pander "justification".
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse
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Posted - 2010.09.28 20:54:00 -
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Edited by: Syn Callibri on 28/09/2010 20:55:22
...or strip girl-children from her mother to be raised and trained in the ways that thier master and mistress wish to be "pleased" behind closed doors...
<her eyes narrow and jaw tenses>
..."savage" is too kind a word for that.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse
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Posted - 2010.09.28 21:10:00 -
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Edited by: Syn Callibri on 28/09/2010 21:14:45
Originally by: Mathhew Kane
...The simple honest fact is I was happy. I had a family. I had a Holder who honestly cared for his people...
Then why did you ever leave such a wonderful place?
Originally by: Mathhew Kane When I was freed, I witnessed my liberators murder people I had loved and known for all of my life.
I slit the throats of those that I had know most of my life...and painted myself with the blood of the kill.
Originally by: Mathhew Kane And yet here I am fighting and risking my life besides the same Republic that took my life away. I would think that a simple brainwashed "slave" would never do such a thing. Perhaps there is a deeper reason to it?
Your not brainwashed...you're a fool to fight for a Republic that you do not believe in....where your heart is conflicted so.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse
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Posted - 2010.09.29 19:15:00 -
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Edited by: Syn Callibri on 29/09/2010 19:15:35
Isn't it ironic that those who's people were not enslaved for 700 YEARS are the majority of those telling the Matari to let go of thier hate and embrace the Amarr?
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse
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Posted - 2010.09.29 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Eran Mintor
If you knew your history and present practices, you'd realize that the Amarr have a history of actually enslaving their own criminals as punishement and a rehabilitation method. Some are enslaved past their lifetimes, others for a a few decades.
Slavery exists in many forms, not just the Amarrian method. Wage slavery is very strong in the Republic and Caldari State right now. When was the last time you visted a Republic ghetto?
Your making excuses for your masters Ammatar, and in true Amarrian fashion you attempt to deflect the issue from yourself to the failings of others. I know "my" history well enough to know that the Republic is not perfect and what the Amarr do to thier own is not the issue...enslaving what they call "inferior races" IS the issue.
<laughs>
I live in the Republic idiot, and have seen the ghettos on my homeworld...I lived in one before training to become a capsuleer. Crawl back into your hole Mintor, your food dish is waiting on your master's kitchen floor.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse
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Posted - 2010.10.01 02:18:00 -
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Originally by: Archbishop
If a child does not like the taste of his medication do you let him not take it? Of course not. Much as it is with the Minmatar and the true God of Amarr. If the Amarr thought the Minmatar would open their hearts to the true God they wouldn't have found it necessary to enslave them. Slavery has been good for the Minmatar you have merely to look at the Ammatar for proof. It is truly joyous to see a Minmatar accept God, to realize his place in Gods world, to realize the Amarr were right all along. I have had the privilege of freeing newly found Ammatar citizens and have recalled their struggles from slavery to service and acceptance. The Ammatar today are proud, obedient and understanding of the truth of the true God of Amarr. They should be role models for the Minmatar not outcasts. They are who you should aspire to be like not terrorist leaders.
Archbishop
A good parent would convince the child by taking the medicine themselves to prove to them it wasn't bad for them...care for a dose?
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse
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Posted - 2010.10.01 13:24:00 -
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Edited by: Syn Callibri on 01/10/2010 13:25:24
Blake...you, Archbishop, and your Ammatar lapdog Mintar have ceased to amuse me.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse
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Posted - 2010.10.01 13:59:00 -
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Actually Mintor, if you recall when others were calling you "blood traitor" I defended you...though my perspective of you has changed since then, considering that you have continually regurgitated the dogma and propoganda of the Amarr.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse
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Posted - 2010.10.01 16:13:00 -
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Edited by: Syn Callibri on 01/10/2010 16:14:50
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Arkady Sadik
the atrocities that Sarum and her savages commit on a daily basis
Such as defending the Empire against foreign aggression and releasing slaves?
We are called "savages" for deeds such as defending the Republic from foriegn agression and actively seeking the freedom of those the Empire will not release...the methods are obviously driven by the resistance and not ALL Minmatar resort to the "terrorist acts" that have become the metric that you hold all of us to.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse
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Posted - 2010.10.01 20:41:00 -
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Edited by: Syn Callibri on 01/10/2010 20:47:14
Originally by: Eran Mintor
I've also seen you defend the likes of Jade Constantine, so I will take the removal of your support as a compliment.
I'm not regurgitating anything, nor do I hold the "dogma and propaganda" of the Amarr in my mind or heart. I am Minmatar, and I think like a Minmatar, only one who's not blinded by hatred.
Well, you sure learned a trick or two from the Amarr, twisting words and actions to suit your own purpose...in this case to deflect attention away from the real issue.
The only way that I have defended Jade Constantine was when she was accused of being a Sansha sympathizer based on her connections alone and even then all I did was point out that if that were the gauge to go by I was guilty as well.
"I am Minmatar, and I think like a Minmatar, only one who's not blinded by hatred"...really, a real Minmatar? What hatred are you implying that blinds me...the one that is the result of years and years of personal beatings, intimate abuse and torture? Is that the one your talking about? I'm SO sorry that my reason to hate doesn't fit into your rose-colored view of your masters.
If anyone is blinded, it is you. Blinded by your love of your noble Amarr masters. Crawl back into your hole worm...before someone decides to crush you under thier boot.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse
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Posted - 2010.10.04 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon
Originally by: Feyona That seems... surprisingly reasonable, actually. I had typed up a long winded paragraph about fighting on both sides, and ending up loving neither, or how both sides need each other, and neither REALLY seems has the moral high ground (in modern times anyway)...
It's a war. Moral high grounds tend to be rare in those.
Oh, yes, we can debate the moral justifications of slavery, either assuming or not the existence of the Evil God. And we can debate who started it, both the original conflict and the latest escalation. And certainly we can arrive to some conclusions on that. I do have my opinions on it, same as the next guy.
But here's the thing: I would not willingly allow my people - my clan, my tribe, my friends and allies - to be enslaved even if you convinced me beyond any doubt that it was the Minmatar people who originally brought on the Long Night.
Elsebeth
..to add to this comment, 95% of my clan was wiped out in genocidal attacks by the Amarr due soley to the fact that they would not kneel before them, fought them...to the bitter end. Those of us that remain have been scattered to the solar wind within the cluster.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse
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Posted - 2010.10.06 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Amarrian society is so awash in contradictions that if it were an entity in a video game I'd condemn it as improbable fiction.
<laughs>
I'm really starting to like you Andreus...we should have drinks sometime, I'll buy.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse
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Posted - 2010.10.06 19:51:00 -
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Edited by: Syn Callibri on 06/10/2010 19:53:08
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Minmatar society is by no means perfect, but they have some serious justifications for anger which Amarrian disingenuity will not dismiss.
What few seem to remember is this...the Republic is young, for 700 years it did not exist at all...we have much to learn both as a Republic and as a people. The one thing we did learn well (to our credit) from the Amarr was how NOT be like them. Paranoid...maybe, but we have reason to be I think.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse
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Posted - 2010.10.06 20:17:00 -
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Edited by: Syn Callibri on 06/10/2010 20:18:19
Originally by: Thgil Goldcore
I will pray for your forgiveness.
Until the Amarr release all slaves to travel as they will, to where they will and makes reperations for 700 years of slavery and oppression...no I will not forgive them and I doubt that the Republic/Elders will either.
On a personal note, I do not ask for the forgivness of your god or any other...my soul is damned. However, thank you for the thought anyway.
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